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Jane
gav… y dont u spread that link re food??
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22:21
Gav
food?
22:21
Jane
codex
22:21
Gav
oh ok will do lol
22:21
Jane
im asking coz i was wondering if its ok to do it
as the gov r fucked up n i kno they watch everything we do
and mite b dangerous 2 do it as a fJaneriend made me aware of all this crap noy that long ago
22:23
Gav
i spent years having several online disguises but too complicated and finally got to the point of thinking I cant hide who I am or what I stand for, so I just have to be in the open.
we all hang together, or we all ‘hang’ separately.
22:25
Jane
yeh i kno … but as this is all new to me im freaked slighty n want everyone to know but im shitting my pants slighty lool
22:25
Gav
coming from a boxer who posts videos about gruesome accidental deaths which make me feel anxiety pangs, I’m surprised to hear you say that
but i understand
how exactly did you get introduced to this kind of stuff, and what made you pay it serious attention?
22:26
Jane
looool….
well
im trying to get an enterprise open and i chose to work with a women who i kno cares about others like me..
as we were working together she slowly start lettin out bits of info
ie 2012 will not be a gud time to b in this country etc
and that gov’s r run by illumin… u kno who… and start showin me stuff about the music industry etc
then other people start mentioning things and since then iv even seen stuff on fb and iv done some research
22:30
Gav
awesome
22:30
Jane
but i try to stay 2minds as im not sure if i shud get sucked in as i kno its true but cant trust how much as the system is clever
22:30
Gav
it shows that gradually gradually these things are being spread
so perhaps what you will do is like the lady did with you, mention bits and pieces to people you know and let it unfold gradually
let people like me who cant hold it in any longer to be so public about it
22:31
Jane
yeah i kno and i can see it being seen everywhere as the younger kids are so aware of it and all this crap on tv people are starting to see that there is something wrong
22:31
Gav
that’s very exciting
22:34
Jane
i do speak to close friends as i cant help it as i worry about em.. and now i look at life differently… can i ask you something?…. have you a religion ? as i keep meetin people who mention things that i cant explain?
22:34
Gav
religion means way of life.
i certainly have that
i’m also open minded so tell me about your experience
22:43
Jane
i will try explain… basicly they say that god is in us (which i believe) but they say like hmm i will use a saying “in order to master life you need to master yourself” like if we learn more about ourselfs spiritually we will discover like some form of power mayb ???… one person said that god is an energy and there is other energys made up from pos and negitaves (ie devil Neg) alot of stuff to do with space? i cant explain gav but it makes me think … ? wat is god who is god? they use term most high? ……..
22:44
Gav
great stuff
do you sense an answer?
if you were to identify god, who would it be?
22:46
Jane
see thats another thing i feel or shall i say felt as recently i feel like there is a block… but my instincts became so powerful that i cud bet on them n it was like i was being told this stuff coz i was being shown something …. but im confused as i feel like i cant focus
god is my instincts?
mayb?
22:47
Gav
well your lack of focus is probably not to do with lack of health and vitality cos it looks like you’re very active physically
ok cool god is your instincts
so who is god?
jesus apparently said ‘the kingdom of heaven is within’
22:48
Jane
me?
no literaly
not
ok
i believe in jesus
well i want to
22:49
Gav
gnostic christianity seems impressive (the older stuff)
and the organized religion stuff seems as corrupt as politics
22:50
Jane
yep!
22:52
Jane
and ??
22:53
Gav
what might your lack of focus come from?
or the block
22:54
Jane
the neg stuff im putting in my eyes!!! n im concerned with some1
i dnt kno if i can trust the women who i thought was gud
22:54
Gav
yes the neg stuff such as those nasty videos?
22:55
Jane
as she told me bout the eye symbol but she wants to use it for our logo
22:55
Gav
if you trust yourself then you can trust and accept others for what they are,
‘among them but not of them’
what’s the issue with using the eye symbol?
22:56
Jane
yeh the vids i dnt watch tv n have not dun so for 4yrs so this fb has really turnt agaisnt me!! not gud!!
the all seeing eye
its wat the illuminates use
22:57
Gav
why does her wanting to use that as the logo mean you maybe cant trust her?
and i’m glad you recognise that about those videos, I have stopped myself twice from commenting to you about it becuase its not my place
23:00
Jane
nah u shud of said coz i kno beta … normally im stronger n have always been aware of manipulation but thats coz it was an instinct thing so i stopped
23:02
Jane
i cnt explain gav… if we use eye people mite think we r illuminates or she cud b involved with a religion? as she said she goes to groups which have a seperate thing like a secret society
23:02
Gav
is she in the UK?
all i can suggest is to keep and grow your connection with your own honest instinctual judgements
23:02
Jane
but u got to apply to b in the society or u just go to meetings… yeah she does
23:03
Gav
and from my professional marketing point of view, a logo must reflect the product and the nature of the market or target audience.
if the illuminati type eye doesn’t suit the market, then this lady is biased or fixated on the eye because of her personal interests, but may be not suitable for the purpose of the logo
23:07
Jane
it does its called be inspired EYE am somebody n the whole point of the eye is to visualise n wake up really… but orignally i called it be inspired but coz i brought her in she wanted to add to it which is fair.. i like it but i started this in honour of my trainer as he inspired me n i want to do this for others by funding them (by raising funds through events) to make there dreams business ideas become reality if i can
23:09
Jane
dnt want the purpose to change but dnt mind it if i can use it to meet people n educate em on this to? just by being an example
23:09
Gav
well here’s an option: yes exactly, you could use it as a subtle way of spreading the true light
illuminati means ‘bringer of light’, just as does premetheus and lucifer
did you know there was a christian saint called St Lucifer
23:10
Jane
no…
23:10
Gav
only later did the xtian church hijack the word and make it refer to satan
23:10
Jane
k
23:11
Gav
so your position with the logo and influence can be about true light
new illuminati
replacing the old illuminati of evil with the new illuminati of honesty, inspirations, achievement, or whawtever
23:12
Jane
yeh i supose so….
23:12
Gav
just an option
i guess the important issue right now is you’re not sure about this lady
maybe you should go to the meetings and check it out
you’ll also notice the eye symbol used all over, on the tv billboards in the underground, on company logos like AOL, etc.
23:13
Jane
yeh… i kno she is a gud person no doubt but just worry she mite b mislead as it cud b the case
i fort that is all coz they r with em?
my biggest fear is to fail god?
23:14
Gav
could be, or could just be they like the eye like you do
also, from a marketing point of view again, mixing 2 ideas in one logo is not necessarily a good idea
Be Inspired makes sense in itself
23:15
Jane
n i try stay away from religion n stand in middle incase i do it wrong or choose wrong one?
23:15
Gav
adding the eye means the person has to have 2 thoughts to grasp the meaning of the brand
that’s why i define religion as its original meaning, ‘way of life’
then you can pick and choose all the positives from any idea system you like, and reject the rest
the only principle that you really need is self-honesty
which comes back to your instincts Jane
and your awareness that god is within
not outside
not found in some organized religion
23:18
Jane
thats y i dont want to find out to late she was using it for this purpose and im associated in it by accident…
this will sound wierd
but
i was with a friend and i said i will not go to a fortune teller as god says its bad.. also
i said if god wants me to know something he will send someone to me to tell me
i was sitting in the internet cafe next day
a man was sitting next to me
he starting talking to me he then said can i tel you a story?
he said there was a man who always good
this other man said how to u stay so good?
the man replied i have two dogs inside me one is good one is bad and they always fight
the other man said which one wins?
and the good man said whichever one i feed the most
he then said the saying in order to master life you need to master urself 1st
then he took my hand
which shocked me
he then said your a very honest and straight forward person and fair ..
23:24
Jane
he said some other things and then said there is two men in my life who look out for me one blood related one not.. the one who is not i will open a charity in his name… but then he looked at me dead in the eye and said “open a charity in his name” i pulled my hand back and said i dont want to kno no more
i didnt know wat to do coz i was thinking wat if he is bad?
23:25
Jane
am i being told something?… but then i see the man again and he has the same views on u n other people i speak to 2? so im so confused and i dont want to mess up on this thing as it is important to me
23:26
Gav
what same views?
23:26
Jane
like the system..
23:26
Gav
hmm ok.
23:26
Jane
looking within us
23:26
Gav
your story kinda reminds me of a story of my own
23:26
Jane
really
23:27
Gav
I want go into the details but when I was in thailand I met a man that had quite an amazing presence about him
and he very quickly made me feel comfortable and he knew a couple things about me
23:27
Jane
yep
23:27
Gav
and long story short he was just a trickster who knew some things about human psychology
23:27
Jane
k
23:28
Gav
I’m not a gullible person but went along with it just to see what woudl happen out of interset
he wanted me to donate money to some guru ashram in india
end of that story lol
23:28
Jane
looool
23:28
Gav
whilst you were talking I was reminded of a quote and just found it again on google
23:28
Jane
this man never once asked me for money loool but i can b gulleable
23:28
Gav
“No man is free who is not master of himself.” – Epictetus
i thought you might like that quote
again, if you build your instincts, and stick to being as honest as you can be (which does take effort), then your gullibility shouldn’t get you in too much trouble
and I would certainly suggest you explore your curiosity about things
23:30
Jane
yeah ….
23:30
Gav
that’s how you learn and grow and develop your understandings
get involved with different groups
always be ‘among them but not of them’
put your own puzzle picture together
23:30
Jane
yeah …
true…
23:32
Jane
so no man is free who is not master of himself??? so for u to be free u need to master urself?? soz just incase i get it wrong..
23:33
Gav
yeh.
23:33
Jane
lol k
do u read the bible?
23:33
Gav
no
i prefer the ancient stuff
23:33
Jane
where can i read this stuff
23:33
Gav
ancient egypt is cool
what kind of stuff you interested in?
23:34
Jane
all of it.. like then sayings etc history in this subject…
23:36
Gav
haha, i’m not sure where to suggest to you first
23:38
Gav
do you want old esoteric strange stuff, or modern practical stuff?
maybe stuff that can help with your ‘be inspired’ project
like ideas that you can share with others
23:39
Jane
bit of everything .. yeah that to
ok
23:39
Gav
I can suggest you check out ‘The magic of thinking big’
23:39
Jane
online or book?
23:40
Gav
book
23:40
Jane
sounds good i like that
as i get people to think big
lol
23:42
Gav
for something a bit more esoteric but still modern, you might try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ask-Given-Learning-Manifest-Attraction/dp/1401904599/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256337737&sr=8-1
(a better explanation of the ‘law of attraction’ stuff)
23:44
Jane
i feel like iv just woken up !!!!!!!!! all them videos iv been posting!! gona delete em all man!! how is it is to be brainwashed .. see this is where im a virgin in this subject and i need to get past this n not be so mislead!! crazy
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00:01
Jane
ok.. nice …. i shud start planning to get away from here to .. as by 2012 it luks like sh$%t gona hit the fan!!!
need to educate myself!!!!
00:03
Jane
u say my videos give u aniexty how do u think i feel watching ur vids loool!!!
thanks gav
u have helped me clear alot of things xx
